A sad story of cause pimp fighters at Ryerson radio.

Here is a story of some people who have not made out very well at fighting a gang of pimps who tried to take over a very sweet honey pot. In this case it was the Trotskyites trying to use CKLN Ryerson student radio as a power base. For more background about the whole CKLN mess, you should visit the CKLN section in "bad orgs".

I hope that the group now trying to reestablish the station get the broadcast license back and are not again subject to cooptation attacks from psycholefties. There is some danger that they will be; the Ryerson student union at present still seem to be controlled by the Trotskyites. This Palin foundation has control over the radio station's premises and had sided with the slime balls before.

This piece is mostly a commentary on one person and some friends of his who were also involved in the fight with this nasty group of people. Attached to it is an article I wrote from notes I took of an interview with this person in late 2009. I polished it up a little before putting it up once more.

It is something that should be part of the cause pimps archive for people who would like to learn more about why anything non profit tends to go wrong in Toronto. Go directly to it or wait til the end. However, the story after the "story so far" is also very instructive and cautionary.

the problem

So, we have a problem in Canada, especially in Toronto, that we have people who are mostly the children of the elite, who cannot get anywhere in the real world but think they should be ordering working people around. Of course they become one sort of other of communists and feel they have to be "more revolutionary than thou". I am not from Toronto but I am amazed at how they seem to be everywhere there is the slightest opening for them. I shit on them.

They are aided by the usual avant colonial Canadian problem of an inadequate legal and political system that creates a playground for many kinds of criminal behavior. One problem is the courts, more about that. But a lot of it is the irresponsibility of people in positions of authority, who cannot be made to act responsibly.

In this story, the main irresponsible authority is the Ryerson university administration. They refused to intervene and let the problem grow and grow. The point of this story is that it is just about impossible to deal with a gang of psychopathic and narcissistic bully types, especially when they have a lot of cover for their activities.

It is worse when they have anyone in their way, anyone they are targeting, isolated. These kind are always good at dividing people who should have the sense to work together. But even when you had some people willing to cooperate to oppose the creeps it was almost impossible to defeat them. They just kept regrouping and coming back.

the failure

At the time I took notes of "Gs" exasperated rave, he had beaten the Lehrer bunch in one round and felt that he and his associates had the goods on them to take them to court and take them out. I cannot know the details of how this turned out, but the most recent news is that they have lost a round in court and are hit with "costs". What is depressing is that it seems the costs are against this Mary Young who I understand has medical problems and a shortage of money.

I can deduce three things. First, G and friends are being milked by their lawyer. Two, their law suit is completely futile. Three, Lehrer has discovered just how to get under G's skin.

I have some experience of taking unarrestable criminals to court. I have learned the hard way to never use lawyers; to learn to conduct my own case. It seems Lehrer is conducting his own case, and making motion after frivolous motion which G thinks he has to pay his lawyer to answer to. This is very lucrative for the lawyer, who would have no incentive to put an end to it.


I do not know why anyone expects to get justice from the family compact-age courts of this country, especially in Ontario. If you can speak for yourself, have a simple and clear case, and are after strictly monetary damages, you have a chance. But even with this, you are going to be fighting the courts more than the creeps who victimized you.

Why this is should not be hard to figure out. G notices that this society is very open to criminal behavior. It always has been; sometimes more so, sometimes less so. This is so because the courts do not seem to want to really deal with criminal behavior, except in very limited areas. G thinks that this is because they are afraid they will have too much work to do.

However, we have to have rule of law if we are going to have a stable society, or even a civilization at all. The confidence of evil doers that they will not be punished largely creates the large amount of crime all around. The greater surety of punishment would greatly reduce crime, especially opportunistic crimes like those of the CKLN opportunists. Therefore, courts that are able to really deal with criminal behavior should not be much more expensive to operate.

The ruling classes in society must know that their defective legal system reduces economic efficiency and makes government more complicated. It would not be hard to make it much more effective. That they leave it the way it is and fight any effort at reform says that it suits them as it is.

It suits them because the protection it allows them making it very difficult for people without money to assert their rights against wealth and power, is more valuable to them that the greater stability a sensible system would bring.

It is often noted that the world is run by psychopaths. That is, people who have no conscience and live by manipulating other people. Such people thrive in an unstable, "open to crime" environment. They do not like the idea of victims refusing to be victims and demanding and obtaining justice. So, such people like the legal system the way it is, operated to bully and crush the hopes of victims seeking justice.

This would hold true even if the abusers from which justice is demanded are the kind of people the ruling class should not like; hard core leftists. This is because such super lefties are no real threat to the present order and as noted, often the children of elite families.

There are somewhat less sordid reasons why courts might not like to deal with the kind of case that G makes against the Ryerson clique. It puts the courts in an awkward position to have to fix other people's mistakes. The CKLN mess was an administrative problem that never should have become a legal problem. When the Ryerson administration refused to do their jobs, they in effect dumped it onto the court system.

the better way

The real solution for this problem was not to take it to court but to take it to the Ryerson students who are paying for something they do not have any interest in. Going to court with this is a rather elitist approach. I attempted to explain this a couple of times to G but he was not listening to anything, just raving at me to take down the web page before Lehrer screwed him some more.

I think the idea was that he wanted to preserve CKLN at all costs, and wanted the basically elitist and isolated board structure kept. He and his friends just wanted it run their way. G was actually at the CRTC hearings about revoking the license, asking the federal bureaucrats to delay a decision until he could get results from his law suit. This did not impress them. Any involvement of the mere students might lead them to decide to shut down the station altogether, or to decide they want more open control of it.

This is approximately what happened after the broadcast license was pulled and the Trotsky/Lehrer/CFS board was booted out of the building. Some of the naive do gooders matured enough to realize that "change from within" is a fairy tale and to try doing things in an open, egalitarian way. They were given some incentive to this by some libertarian type enrolled at Ryerson who started a petition to have CKLN defunded.

The counter petition, asking that CKLN continue but be made to serve the interests of the students who paid for it, won by a large margin. This motivated the Ryerson administration to finally act constructively and create a new framework with student involvement but also grownup and expert overview. Why on earth could this obvious approach not have been taken years ago?


Not only have G and friends lost but both they and the Trotskys and Andy Lehrer have become totally irrelevant. It should have been obvious that the case, whatever the details of it, would drag on for years while the Lehrer bunch have already altered the facts on the ground and events have completely moved on.

G was demolished by these cause pimps, because he is an arrogant ass. As such, he delayed a solution to the CKLN trouble and further imperiled it, rather than defend it. And it troubles me to think that he may have led other, naive and vulnerable people into harm for nothing, especially this Mary Young.

So now, this is going up on the net, as well as the original notes from Gs narration. I will not entertain any further pleadings to take it down. I wish I had not responded to previous whines. It is something instructive for those who need to fight against psychopathic cause pimps trying to hijack any institution.

The moral of the story is that you cannot oppose people like that from a position of elitism. You can only come at them from a position of populism. If you cannot engage the public that benefits from what you are seeking to protect, that you are not the person to lead the opposition.

Also, if you do not have the character to with stand the psychological games these kinds of people will play on you, to not be drawn into playing their game, than you are not someone to lead.

The counter for psychopathic opportunists is for people to give a damn, and to not be coming from their own petty egotism. If there is not a public willing to support an institution and which cares that it function properly, then it is nothing and is better closed down.

It is never about you.


the Ryerson Radio story

November 2009

This is an account of an almost ten year battle with Kristin Schwartz  and the people around her for control of the Ryerson radio station, CKLN.  Taken down in November of 2009

G made some money in the animation business, and has some means and resources with which to carry on a protracted struggle like this.  He would much rather  have spent his energies  doing what he originally set out to do, which is to produce a radio show. He has had to engage in a seemingly endless struggle to keep  some evil people from using the radio station for evil purposes.

And yes, there are evil people with evil purposes in the world. In this kind of situation they usually prevail because the people who are in their way either do not have the resources to fight them, or  do not want to "get dragged through the mud". It should not be necessary for anyone to have to  defend society's interests with their own time and money, at great personal risk; but we  do not have police and courts in Canada which work. 

Shortly after G started at CKLN, Shwartz was hired as  a news director. There was immediate hostility. She did everything to undermine him and she is very good at poisoning the well.

There are lots of people looking for power, or just to 'get theirs' at CKLN. There are people who are just slaves or stooges, such as Emmy Pantin.

Schwartz got hired in  April of 2000 and within six months had all the by-laws  changed to give herself a never ending job. She knows how to keep herself out of the line of fire and get other people to do the dirty work.

Originally,  the news director at CKLN was not a core position. She changed that. She also removed all faculty of Ryerson from the board; no grown ups from the administration faculty.   The management took over the board.  She bankrupted CKLN. The Ryerson admin. did not intervene-why?  They think it is a "political liability". 

Ryerson radio has been around since 1983. The opportunists took it over  about 4 to 5 years after it started.  Glen calls them "the lesbians and  super lefts". These people are almost all from elite families; somehow they need to be "more radical than thou". 

Things got ridiculous in the mid-1990s, and they got in trouble with the CTRC. Some cooler heads then came into it, but the opportunists were still there.  Then Kristin Schwartz arrived. 

During the Quebec "summit of the Americas" 2001 Schwartz  was in charge of covering events.  She is not a good leader, not good at organizing things well. 

While at Quebec, some kid who was inexplicably there, whom Kristin was codling, tried to kick Greg's head off in a stairwell. Greg had witnesses, and when he talked to Schwartz about this, the attacker immediately disengaged. 

Back in Toronto, she called a meeting, tried to make him the villain. This was ridiculous; he was 45 years old, dealing withy some kid from Jane Finch.  But  at that time he found an ally, D. They worked together  on their radio program, which was a success. 

But there was increasing conflict which came to a head three years ago when  Sharmeen Khan was hired. 

Some people work full time at CKLN, others are volunteers,  and others pop in for brief periods to get a salary.  It is not ever clear just what these people  do for the money.  Often they just hang around. 

People  used CKLN to make money of their own private businesses.  They got the benefit, not the company. 

So, Khan did  a women's issues  month and got a fee of a few thousand. Then next AGM, Khan  gets nominated, but someone points out that she was not eligible to run. Kristin  tried to make what was in the by-law seem ridiculous to the  inexperienced members,  and Sharmeen got elected. 

Then someone else found out that Sharmeen is on the board of York University radio. When they put this to the board, this was when the trouble really started. Kristen and friends started doing everything in the world to get rid of them.  However, this gave G and D a lot of ammunition. She did  many very crooked things. They made three complaints about this, but  in each they were made out as the bad guys.  Some sort of terrible crime was made up in secret and they could not find out what they were accused of. 

They found an "honest lawyer". They sued.  It seems the Kristen company had never run into someone who could get a lawyer and come back at them. They were thrown out of CKLN in  2006,  and in 2007 they went to court. 

Schwartz was not sued. As usual, she kept herself out of the line of fire.


G and D had an informant on the board and could see what they were doing.  They were not investigating complaints. The Ryerson students union went along with it completely. But the clique made so many mistakes, they undermined themselves. 

Everything was focussed on getting G and D.  One of these people, a young student at Ryerson, actually said "we should not worry about  the facts, just people's perceptions". 

At the time, Schwartz was on maternity leave, but she was still calling the shots. She was prepared to spend  tens of thousands of GSU's money, collected from student fees,  to beat the case. That is on top of the board liability insurance CKLN had. But they had a lousy lawyer who could not even seem to read the statement of claim.  

They were violating  their by-laws constantly. They brought in an outside gun  to chair the board meetings. 

G and D had put up a web site, which bothered the pimps enormously; they were losing control of the organization. So, they settled it out of court. One term of the  settlement was that they take the web site down. G  got an apology and part of his costs. If there was a dispute  for two years after, it had to go to arbitration. 

If he had lost this case, his costs would have been $250 000. G thinks the problem with the court system  is they are afraid there is so much criminal behavior around that it would swamp the court system. 

At the 2007Annual General Meeting, they tried to do the same thing again using Emmy Pantin. Pantin was a proxy for  Sharmeen. They were again told they could not do that. Pantin fled. 

So, a good candidate got onto the board, another ally;  Josee Minors.  Within 4 months she was the chair of the board. 

By December of 2007, G and D were back on the air. The Schwartz bunch  continued to cause trouble, they still had their jobs, but they were not in control. Josee Minor asked one of them to write a receipt for  some money which came in. He protested that they did not do that, they did not have a receipt book, etc. 

The next tack of the Schwartz faction was to start a union, and then start an impeachment campaign. Kristen was still on maternity leave but  directing  things from behind the scene. 

Andrew Lehrer, on the board illegally after they had held a secret meeting, held a meeting in which real members were barred, new members signed up, and this used to take over the company again. At this point they  knew that Kristin  had  gone to work for  the Federation of Metro Tenants Associations while on maternity leave with CKLN. 

This "impeachment" of the board took place in February of 2008. Dale Whitmore,  who said he was a lawyer by training, put something together which they thought allowed them to remove the board by collecting 100 signatures. They got them by making accusations  that the existing board was conspiring to make the  station more "corporate". 

They wrote in new members, just writing their names in a book with no verification that they had paid dues. They even brought CUPE people in from Ottawa. 

Josee Minors read the riot act to the union for trying to undermine the board while it was  in the the collective bargaining process. CUPE headquarters told its members to stop this immediately.  However,  someone had to take the fall for this behavior, and it was the CUPE  member from Ottawa,  Daniel Vander Vort. 

Some people beleive VanderVort was sent by the Canadian Federation of students. (CFU) He showed up 4 years ago and has stayed. He now has a job with  CFU in Toronto, which he is unqualified for; some sort of financial control  job. 

CFU is a control center of this weird Trotskyist network which is trying to take over  student unions and  student radio across the country. The thing with these people is they really cannot win legally; sooner or later they have to do something illegally. 

In June  of 2008, Schwartz came back from maternity leave, and was  very belligerent. But all her cronies were gone. By August she had been fired. She continued working with the behind the scenes bunch from February, claiming they were the real board. 

They had brought in Arnold Minors and claimed he was the chair. He called every bank, business, or other organization with anything to do with CKLN claiming to be the chair of the board. 

In October of 2008, RSU refused to hand over money  due to CKLN, creating a financial crisis i to enable the pimps to regain control. Each student  at Ryerson pays  eight dollars in student fees to support Ryerson radio. Most of them do not know Ryerson radio exists.  

By March sixth  of 2009, the doors were locked; the property manager claimed there was an unsafe   environment in the office. The building is owned by the Palin foundation,  which is closely tied with RSU.  Van Vertin was now on Palin's board. The Ryerson management still refused to be involved. 

"Looped" programs, old stuff from years past,  were played in an empty office.  At one point, there were eleven days of dead air time, a big no-no with CRTC. 

Infighting increased between the "greedy people" and those naive people  who came in to try to "solve" the problem. On July 24,  Schwartz and Minors  called an illegal meeting and took the company back.  RSU tried to ban the  legally elected board from coming into the CKLN office, but some got in anyway.  

They wanted to vote to suspend all the by-laws  so they could have at the meeting to abolish the by-laws and create new ones. Someone made some points of order. The chair of this meeting was  someone called John Harris Stevens, from  the Carleton University radio station in Ottawa.  

He called  the vote anyway, and  the "greedy people" went along because they wanted to start making money  right away. They were told that the station would open immediately if they did what they were told. This did not happen, but the Schwartz and Arnold Minors bunch got what they wanted. 

A lot of people from OCAP also attended. It seems OCAP was infuriated that  the "corporates" were back on the air. They were "traitors to the cause." One wonders, what cause? 

Since then, the bad hats have gradually regained control. Any time anyone asks them a question, they just 'shut down'. Most of the idiots around them do not really want to know what is going on. 

By early October, CKLN was back on the air most of the time. Kristin  got reinstated when no one from CKLN showed up at her arbitration hearing. But there is still no money to pay her. 


They refused to let anyone get back on the air until they signed a 'lease agreement', which is secret. Among other things, the lease agreement  stated that no one at CKLN was allowed to call the police again. All this was designed  specifically for G and D. 

G and D actually put on a good show and brought some money in to CKLN. They cannot actually take their time slot away, because it is part of the  settlement agreement. 

The shows Kristin and friends put on were 'dull';  no one listened to them. 

Kristin and company keep coming back like cockroaches. It is obvious they are being covered off at a fairly high level. These are mostly people born to privilege but with no talent at all. They cannot get anywhere in the real world, so they  try  to create their own empire where they can lord it over poor people. They are helped by a system open to criminality, that makes it easier to act in a criminal way than to be honest. 

But G, D, and Josee Minors are preparing a counter attack which may finish  them off.  The Schwartz and Minors  gang does not know all the information they have on them. 

The story continues. 


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